Healthy At Any Size A Genuine Discussion

 

Health at Every Size is DANGEROUS…

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HAES vs Weight Loss | Where I Stand

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Debate: Can you be healthy at any size?

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My REAL Conversation With a “Health at Every Size” Supporter

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Healthy at Every Size [h3h3productions]

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Can you be healthy at every size?

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What Every Overweight Person Needs to Hear Dr Rhonda Patrick on Fat Acceptance

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Healthy At Any Size? An Honest Discussion — Tiger Fitness. The simple truth of the matter is that being overweight or obese causes a number of health problems.

The simple truth of the matter is that being overweight or obese causes a number of health problems. NEW Outright Bar ️ White Choc. Perspective Discussion of news topics with a point of view, That makes it a good time to take a look at the Health at Every Size (HAES) movement. your health is not going to be as good. What is Health at Every Size?

The Health at Every Size movement promotes acceptance and appreciation of one’s body, even if you’re overweight. It. Can You Be Healthy at Any Size? The Lesson: It’s true that body weight is strongly correlated with the risk of various diseases such as heart disease, stroke, cancer, and diabetes. Health At Every Size.

Everyone needs to be thin for good health and happiness, Thin is not intrinsically healthy and beautiful, nor is fat intrinsically unhealthy and unappealing. People who are not thin are “overweight” because they have no willpower, eat too much, and don’t move enough. The basic premise of health at every size, as written in Linda Bacon’s Book, Health at Every Size: The surprising truth about your weight, is that “Health at Every Size” (HAES) acknowledges that well-being and healthy habits are more important than any number on the scale. Below are principles you can adopt in your everyday life: Accept your size. I took healthy at every size to mean exactly what it says; that people of any size can be healthy.

Decided to look it up to make sure and found that it doesn’t mean that, it just means that the focus is on being as healthy as you can regardless of your body. I like that, actually. basic premise of health at every size, as written in Linda Bacon’s Book, Health at Every Size: The surprising truth about your weight, is that “Health at Every Size” (HAES) acknowledges that well-being and healthy habits are more important than any number on the scale. 1. Accept your size.

Love and appreciate the body you have. The Health at Every Size community provides free supportive resources. Health at Every Size® principles help us advance social justice, create an inclusive and respectful community, and support people of all sizes in finding compassionate ways to take care of themselves.

Health at Every Size paradigm, also known as Health at Any Size, encompasses active living and normal eating, emotional and spiritual well-being, and positive relationships.

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Furthermore, they assert that people can and should be able to become healthy at any size.

“The Doctor Is In: 7 Easy, Positive Steps to Take Right Now to Transform Your Health” by Travis Stork M.D.
from The Doctor Is In: 7 Easy, Positive Steps to Take Right Now to Transform Your Health
by Travis Stork M.D.
Gallery Books, 2010

In Health at Every Size (HAES), people discuss weight in health-neutral ways and discuss health in weight-neutral ways.

“The Fat Studies Reader” by Esther Rothblum, Sondra Solovay, Marilyn Wann
from The Fat Studies Reader
by Esther Rothblum, Sondra Solovay, Marilyn Wann
NYU Press, 2009

Using this as a guideline, one is guarded about the possibility that optimism makes people feel physically healthier because they are objectively healthier, because the relationship between optimism and objective health is substantially smaller than the relationship between optimism and subjective health.

“The Oxford Handbook of Health Psychology” by Howard S. Friedman
from The Oxford Handbook of Health Psychology
by Howard S. Friedman
Oxford University Press, 2011

In determining a healthy weight, the rule of thumb is to ask the body for the answer rather than an insurance table, although “ideal body weights” from standard tables may be used for the shortterm goal in acute treatment.

“Eating Disorders: A Guide to Medical Care and Complications” by Philip S. Mehler, Arnold E. Andersen
from Eating Disorders: A Guide to Medical Care and Complications
by Philip S. Mehler, Arnold E. Andersen
Johns Hopkins University Press, 2017

Fit is subjective,” she said matter-of-factly.

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by Lauren A. Rivera
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Within UCAN, partners learn how to “agree to disagree,” rather than trying to convince the patient that she is not overweight, which can create a wedge between the partners.

“Clinical Handbook of Couple Therapy, Fifth Edition” by Alan S. Gurman, Jay L. Lebow, Douglas K. Snyder
from Clinical Handbook of Couple Therapy, Fifth Edition
by Alan S. Gurman, Jay L. Lebow, Douglas K. Snyder
Guilford Publications, 2015

Debate will probably always continue about how best to measure health, in part because of the complexity and abstract nature of health itself.

“Measuring Health: A Guide to Rating Scales and Questionnaires” by Ian McDowell
from Measuring Health: A Guide to Rating Scales and Questionnaires
by Ian McDowell
Oxford University Press, 2006

Especially since the 1980s, the growing concern about obesity has been justified by a set of interrelated beliefs about the relationship between body size, health, and food choices.

“Discriminating Taste: How Class Anxiety Created the American Food Revolution” by S. Margot Finn
from Discriminating Taste: How Class Anxiety Created the American Food Revolution
by S. Margot Finn
Rutgers University Press, 2017

Most people, for instance, would say that a doughnut is not “healthy” (or “good”), but it’s not fair to say a doughnut is “unhealthy” (or “bad”) from a purely technical standpoint.

“The End of Illness” by David B. Agus
from The End of Illness
by David B. Agus
Free Press, 2012

Our culture’s obsessive focus on a perfect physique has blinded us to the bigger question, which is what anyone of any size should eat to avoid being sickened by our unbalanced food supply.

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  • Abbey, this is amazing! How much better would the world be if it were full of people who admitted not to having all of the answers and didn’t just pick a side without being informed and empathetic? This example of “good humaning” goes WAY beyond nutrition!

  • You are amazing. Admitting that you have been focusing a little too much on the wrong things, welcoming growth and self reflecting. These are things that many people “in the public eye/ ear” will not do. And coming out with a video that includes all of these?! I’ve not seen it often on YouTube. Thank you for being who you are and doing what you do.

  • The argument that individuals can be overweight and still healthy has nothing to do with anything. It’s a statistical argument that isn’t really up for debate. Overweight people are more likely to be less healthy, end of story.

  • As a current fat guy who really opposes this movement I decided to create a body positive commercial, which I’d hope some of you could watch and give me some feedback

  • Hi there! Health at Every Size aligned Registered Dietitian here stopping by. Thanks so much for taking the time to speak with someone on the opposing end of your ideas. A lot of what you say actually resonates well with the Health At Every Size approach!
    I think you may be more in line with the views than you realize, and again I can’t thank you enough for taking a moment to talk to someone with different opinions with you.

    I am not sure if you ever have or not, but speaking with a Registered Dietitian that works in the Health At Every Size space and works with clients on a daily basis would be great to sit and chat with. If you are open to learning more about how this approach actually works “in real life” to enhance health in a wide variety of individuals, all with different sized bodies, there are so many Registered Dietitians like myself that would be thrilled to speak with you.

    Some very surface level quick tidbitswe are not anti weight-loss…however the focus of our sessions is NEVER on what will happen to your weight as an end result, rather the heath that you will GAIN throughout the process of engaging in life enhancing movement and eating for well being. There is so many amazing things we can do to promote health when the sole focus is not on weight or how healthy habits will adjust the way your body looks.

    Some GREAT resources
    the book “Anti-Diet” by Christy Harrison (she is an AMAZING Registered Dietitian and researcher…everyone should at least read the first 5 chapters as a simple eye opener if not anything else!) She also has a podcast- “Food Psych”
    -the Association for Size Diversity and Health website has a ton of research and resources: https://www.sizediversityandhealth.org/
    -“Poodle Science” video-Just a super cute representation of the concept using doggos!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H89QQfXtc-k&t=5s

    You said it exactly right when you emphasized the “Health” in the phrase. Because that’s exactly what it is…we don’t have to focus on someone’s size to promote health! The approach doesn’t mean we ignore health promoting behaviors like exercise and a nourishing and rich diet…it just means that no matter what size you come in-the focus will always be on enhancing health, whatever that means for the client I am speaking to.

    I hope this comment is helpful to anyone reading! find me on instagram if you’d [email protected]_rd
    I LOVE talking to people. LOL:)

    With LOTS of love and compassion,
    -Chelsea

  • If you get your first heart attack in your fourties, you definitely have better chances of survival compared to a normal weight person in the sixties. I forgot the name of this bias, but it is a very common mistake in health studies.

  • So where does one draw the line of “health”? Doctors use a BMI chart… Pretty hypocritical to say health at EVERY size and then say the 600 lbs person isn’t healthy. 600 lbs is part of EVERY size. She is just hypercritical of her own weight and it was affecting her own mental health. Maybe they need to change the name to “health at a healthy size.”

  • People need to talk more about how being overweight in hospital leaves you at a huge disadvantage, as most emergency treatments cater to those of normal weight so if you have a serious accident you are more likely not to survive it, plus a lot of nurses and doctors have ended up with damaged backs as a result of trying to help lift an obese person out of bed

  • “fat acceptance” is NOT about praising obesity, it’s about stopping people from being judgemental towards people who are fat. and everyone who attacks body positivity speeches and demonstrations are just a part of the problem, not the solution. stop being such morons and judging people for being fat, skinny, whatever. This is about people being accepted by who they are, it’s about MENTAL health

  • You cannot be healthy at any size. Being overweight is completely unhealthy. Your body is only supposed to be able to support as much as it can carry which is why overweight people are usually tired after short walks as your increased mass will put strain on your legs and feet. And being overweight also increases the chance of having a stroke or getting heart disease and also decreases your life expectancy. It also affects other people: being overweight will cause you to seek medical attention more so millions of people doing this will greatly increase the cost of healthcare thus making healthcare more difficult to get and essentially “killing” people

  • Is it weird that I’m 300lbs. And I’m always told I carry like I look like I’m 240. I’m not skinny, but I don’t look 300. I wonder what that that is? How much would I weight if I was 0fat.

  • Being an overweight pre teen was just really sad for me, like not being able to run and play at gym class or fit in my favorite clothes, crying in front of the mirror thinking: “why am i so fucking fat?! Why am i like this?! Why can’t i be normal?!” It’s more serious than most people think

  • Likely this is just my ignorance, but I don’t see why the 2 sides are actually opposed yes superficially in as far as ‘lose the weight’ sounds like it goes against the ‘eat intuitively,’ but I feel like the 2 go hand in hand. Eating intuitively, for me at least (to the limited extent that I’ve been able to), has meant I both eat less & healthier, with massively reduced cravings & binges as I’m not stressing & shaming myself about food, & as a result I have lost some weight. Nothing dramatic nor fast, but it’s been a welcome though unintended side-effect.

    Possibly it’s just my own experience clouding me, as the times I have lost weight were after I stopped allowing my mother to control my food (she was real big on the shaming & constant cycle of diet after diet, & then publicly blaming me whenever other family members groaned at yet another cabbage soup), & when I gave up on trying to do ‘the best’ I could in my restrictive circumstances (chronic illness/disability leaving me unable to actually prepare my own food, & subsisting on a disability pension preventing me from being able to afford things like fresh fruit & veg) & switched from the weight watchers type microwave meals to the ordinary supermarket-brand ones (which ironically have waaaay less salt & sugar than the WW ones for only slightly more fat).

    I do want to lose weight, & I very much need to, but diets have never worked for me & only ever made things worse both physically & psychologically so I’ve found your content incredibly helpful in terms of letting go of the shame & stress, giving myself permission to eat the amount I want while paying attention to hunger & fullness queues rather than trying to keep a schedule, & quashing the little voice telling me all the horrible things my mother used to lecture me with about how my chronic pain is entirely my own fault & failure (not even remotely medically accurate); how grotesque & disgusting; how unlovable & destined to be alone etc.

    For helping me quash my mother’s handiwork alone I thank you so much it breaks my heart that she truly believed what she was doing was love.

  • I’m currently in school to become an RD and this video has been so inspiring. I used to be very overweight and on my own, I found my own version of health. in doing this, I found my passion for nutrition. Every video you post gives me so much motivation and you have been such an inspiring person to watch! thank you for always being honest with your audience and for teaching me so much while I’m in school. i start clinical classes next semester wish me luck!

  • I think she’s on point about the conversation regarding being an overweight woman in the world. Like, I went to the doctor because I was gaining weight for no reason, I was confused and unfocused, I couldn’t remember anything, I was lethally depressed and my hair was falling out. I told him I had a family history of thyroid issues. The doctor said I was sad because I was gaining weight and he wouldn’t run the test. I said I wouldn’t leave until I had an appointment for blood tests. Turns out my thyroid stopped working and I had PCOS. Now taking trying to take control of my health and burn off the weight I gained.

  • On a serious note, I’m literally morbidly obese and I have no conditions or diseases related to my weight. Being fat doesn’t have to be unhealthy for your body if you treat your it right.

    Personally I used to be underweight, but due to medications and health conditions I gained alot of weight and I’m currently unable to lose it since I can’t exercise properly after a leg surgery.

  • I was never insanely obese or anything, but I was quite fat and chubby, I’ve lost 7 kg (15lbs) this year, and aswell as looking better and having more confidence, I feel so much better all day, sleep better and can concentrate better.

  • What I take from this video: HAES and Body Positivity are mixed up WAAAY to much! It is called HEALTH at EVERY size. And the two words are the problem about this. HEALTH and EVERY. I don’t have the smallest doubt that Courtney has a heakthy lifestyle even though she is overweight. But a majority of the HAES advocates (or at least the most known ones) are morbidly obese and I doubt you can be healthy long-term while at such a weight.
    Most of the stuff Courtney and John discuss are about BODY POSITIVITY, which totally should be there for perople at EVERY size, because self hatred is bad no matter what your body may look like or weigh.
    And every person out there, no matter what size, deserve humanity, respect and selflove.
    But promoting obesity or morbid obesity as HEALTHY and declining that these things HARM bodies long-term and WILL eventually backfire and cause severe illnesses up to a early deathbed… there’s NO WAY that this is a positive movement. No effin way.

    And mixing up BoPo and HAES is a big problem in my opinion.
    As for me I’m a huge supporter of the BoPo Movement and without BoPo I would’ve never managed to take care of myself once mentally (getting out of depression) or physically (losing 30 pounds) because I was kneedeep in self hatred which caused most of my problems.
    That being said I DON’T support HAES. I don’t believe it is possible to be and stay healthy in a long-term at certain sizes. And I think the HAES movement does more harm than it does good.

  • They are confusing overweight vs obesity via the measurements if you use BMI. So while these articles are sensational, the Dr and Joe don’t have their facts quite straight either.

  • I don’t have the healthiest relationship with food, and it really didn’t hit home with me until I started watching your videos. However, I really don’t think I have an eating disorder… With that in mind, and as another person mentioned, I AM trying to lose weight. I am in the military, so there are certain standards I need to maintain. Additionally, I just feel better and am more comfortable in my own skin when I’m lighter than I am right now. While I love your videos, your honesty and your CLEAR intention of trying to help people, I find myself really conflicted when you talk about intuitive eating and diet culture, etc. I don’t want to diet, and I would love to be able to practice intuitive eating the way it’s suggested, but the fact of the matter is I can’t afford to get any heavier. I don’t have that luxury if I want to keep my job. �� I actually have more peace of mind being a bit lighter so I don’t have anxiety about not passing a weigh in. So what is the practical way for me to lose weight without dieting? Is it really just focusing on healthier choices? And how do I keep myself from falling into orthorexic eating patterns while losing weight?

    These are just my personal struggles. I always love watching you because you are caring, compassionate and science based. As long as you continue to produce content with those values, you’ll always be a great asset to the community. Please continue to explore all types of “ diets” and ways to improve our health and wellbeing through the things we eat. Much love, Abbey!! ��

  • First, I just want to say that I absolutely agree with you that we need to separate happiness from weight loss… Yes! That is so true! However at 8:03 and 9:59, you make comments that the health at every size movement is encouraging people to gain weight. You say things along the lines of “You should just give up. You should just continue gaining weight.” in reference to what the health at every size movement is about. However nowhere is that even mentioned or suggested or implied by the health at every size movement. You also mention that there are really unhealthy ways to lose weight, which I agree with. Which is why I would suggest that in addition to saying that we need to separate happiness from weight loss, we should also say that we need to separate health from weight loss. Because just like you said losing weight doesn’t equal being healthy. So with that in mind, maybe you could look at the health at every size movement in a different light because instead of promoting a lot of the unhealthy techniques that you talk about, they are encouraging people to be healthier at whatever weight they happen to be. Basically the idea is that you don’t have to lose weight to start working on your health. And you absolutely have the right to disagree with the movement, but I don’t think that you should be portraying the movement falsely and stating that the health at every size movement is encouraging people to gain weight “until they die”. That is not at all the case. You obviously have experienced success with weight loss, but that doesn’t make you an expert. I haven’t seen you reference any research that backs up your claims. And I get that that’s not really what your channel is about. But ultimately you are providing your opinion in addition to false information (such as the whole implication that the health at every size movement is encouraging people to gain weight), and as far as I can tell you really don’t have any credentials that make you an expert in health, weight loss, or research (because honestly it seems like you really aren’t familiar with the concept that correlation does not equal causality). You have a few good ideas mixed in there, but I don’t think that you are doing the right thing by inaccurately portraying the help at every size movement.

  • I love watching videos about people trying to justify being fat ( or those like Rogan discussing it ) while I am dieting and exercising. Very good motivation.

  • It’s important to note that Health at Every Size does not imply healthy at every size. HAES does not mean that everyone is healthy, but rather that everyone, no matter their body, weight, or ability, should have access to health as a resource without stigma.

  • As a veterinarian with a BSc in human nutrition, I am a little surprised at your saying that weight loss MAY help. In my patients (cats and dogs) a healthy body condition score is a very important determinant of heath, longevity, and, most importantly, quality of life. So I find it hard to accept that weight loss for overweight people (including myself) is not the same, on average. What we have to work on is the “body shape shame” that is placed on people, the thought that obesity is somehow related to ones worth. And, of course, cookie-cutter recommendations need to be nuanced toward an individual’s unique makeup, both physically and emotionally.

  • dont act like everyone who is fat wants to be that way… some people are born fatter or have the disposition to be fatter in life.

  • First I would like to say think you for this video. There was a video I can’t remember which one at the moment where I did feel you were speaking more personal than broadly and it was confusing to because I’m a wls patient that has certain dietary needs so I have to watch my diet. When you say don’t diet I kinda wish you would clarify what you mean by a “diet “ cause to me a diet is just a fashion in which you eat and not necessarily bad thing I would say I personally have a low carb style of eating because I’m trying to maintain without synthetic insulin so I’m following a “diet” �� but follow this life style helps me maintain an overall healthier. Also I’m not sure all of our bodies tell us the right things needs again being a diabetic and over 300 I needed some guidelines

  • Crazy article. The first point i find hilarious and sad at the same time. “Less risk of rheumatoid arthritis if overweight”. The only person i know who has rheumatoid arthritis because its quite a rare disease anyway, is my own mother. And shes been overweight for the last 20 years.

  • I know I’m coming to this video much later than most commenters. I just want to say that I really appreciated it, and thank you for making it and being honest. I feel like I am a bit more like you as a dietitian. I am a dietitian in public health and was doing a lot of my work focusing on trying to reduce an array of chronic disease outcomes, including trying to reduce BMI, at the population-level. I have now done a lot of reading about weight-neutral and weight-inclusive care and believe this is a model that public health needs to adopt more broadly, as we majorly perpetuate weight stigma with a lot of our messaging. That being said, I have to recognize that this is one approach in a sea of approaches, and I have to have conversations and meet my colleagues where they’re at in a way that will encourage them to consider a nuanced perspective and not shame them because that’s not productive.

    “We do the best we can with the information we have at the time” is my mantra. Just like we shouldn’t use shame to try and influence a person’s desire to lose weight, we should not be shaming one another for practices that we believed at the time to be evidence-based.

    Anyways, thanks for making these videos. I seriously just watched like 5 of your videos in a row and feel it’s a really balanced perspective and takes a lot of nuance into account.

  • I’m about halfway through this video and while I completely agree with this woman about her being fit and healthy and that she is a bit overweight-the problem I have is that this in no way represents the morbidly obese person who says they and others like them can be fit and healthy. If you are morbidly obese you are not healthy and definitely not fit..look at the best known proponents of health at any size movement, Tess Holliday. She is not fit, she can barely move and her organs are swimming in a lot of fat, whiçh is not healthy. She may not have any diseases right now, but her risk of developing them is much much higher than a person who is not obese. She is absolutely gorgeous but her selling this idea to young women while she gets rich, is wrong. I think she should love herself, of course she should, and she should appreciate her body for what it does for her, but to profess that she is healthy and fit is not trueI saw the videos of her in the gym, and while I think ‘ good for you’re for showing that, it also was very clear that she’s not fit, not even close. That plus she had to defend her working out to the body positive people, is ridiculousdo people not see that taking care of you body is a no no in this community. I think that shows how it all works…. basically, I’m not happy being obese, but don’t feel like I can change it, so I’d rather be part of a group that says it’s ok, however, if anyone in this group does decide to try, then they are attacked..if they all were as confident as they say, then they wouldn’t be so hurt or triggered when one of their own tries to get healthier..

  • I’m definitely overweight. Gonna go on keto or intermittent fasting after a party/feast at my house next week.

    I’ll give one big reason to lose weight. Coronavirus kills young overweight people. If you’re overweight, your oxygen demands are higher. If you get coronavirus, it kills your ability to bring in enough oxygen, you go into multi-organ failure as a result and die.

  • Unfortunately, this video contained a lot of falsities. You focused too much on how we as a culture minimize morbid obesity. You didn’t speak on normal weight obesity, which is completely overlooked, potentially making it more dangerous. You superficiality judged obesity by the scale number, claiming that it’s okay to be 20 to 30 pounds overweight. 20 30 lbs overweight could absolutely qualify as obese depending on your bfp, relative to your height, muscle mass and weight. How immediate the danger of obesity is depends on a lot of variables, like what’s your metabolic profile, but ultimately fat is fat. You’re doing exactly what you reprove our society for doing. You’re arguing that we shouldn’t let thin-counter/pop-culture debase our standards, yet your focus is on one extreeme. This video is not inclusive of how the disease manifests non-visibly. Just as i agree that we shouldn’t use science as a weapon to bully fat-afflicted people, we shouldn’t let fat denalism continue to kill us at an exponential rate. At the end of the video, you said you were comfortable with being fat-afflicted at one point. This is why shame is a healthy and good antidote to irrational thinking. Shame is not the same as bullying.

  • i remember being an 11 year old (im 14 now) and i was just so under weight so i decided to try and get above under weight. i lost control and now i want to lose weight if ANYONE knows any possible ways to lose belly fat please comment.

  • this was a really good conversation! she isn’t denying facts (eg. saying it’s not unhealthy to be morbidly obese) like some haes or bopo activists seem to do. this is what the definition should really be.

  • There is only 2 advantages of being overweight:
    1If you want to be a Sumo champion
    2If you want to survive many weeks without food

  • Hi, thanks for the video.
    Personally my problem isn’t fighting with ghrelin levels, but rather with the absence of leptin. I tried to look into this deeply, but all I found so far, that there is nothing you can do about the absence of leptin. If your body fat is low, you gonna be hungry no matter what you do. If you have a strong will, you can go on for months, maybe even years, but if you reach your braking point, you will eventually give in, and fill up the fatcells to at least 50% capacity and unless you have extremely fortunate genetics, which means you don’t have a high number of fatcells, you’re not gonna be able to maintain leanness.
    Personally I think this is why “diets” fail. They can fight ghrelin signals, but that deep hunger feeling (you know the one you can feel even with your stomach stretched), as far as I know, there is nothing to beat that.
    Also, if leptin is that low, all that your body understands that you are dying, so all calories should be used for survival purposes, and you won’t be able to build muscle effectively.
    (If I’m wrong feel free to correct me, if there is any method, that can help on that matter, please share:D )
    Nice video and thank you.

  • Diet is what you eat so technically we are all on a diet. It amazes me how caloric management triggers so many people. I was obese and it was a god send for me much like this channel. Cheers Layne ��

  • Also from a military standpoint what you said at 1:20 is indeed an issue. There’s a national security issue related to all of the draft pool being fat and unable to do anything. Look up the ted talk on this.

  • 4:50 “can you be healthy as an overweight and obese person? Absolutely…”

    Um…. that’s not what it says here: https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/is-it-okay-to-be-fat-if-youre-fit. It says, ‘Despite the differences in these studies, they all suggest that physical activity will offset some of the effects of excess weight, if it’s just a few extra pounds. So apart from any weight-loss goals you’ve set for yourself, it’s important to exercise regularly. Yet exercise isn’t going to magically erase all the health risks of being heavy.

    Now, I’m confused.

  • She is what what we should visualise when we think of body positivity and health at every size. She is beautiful with a great attitude and living in a way that is obtainable to a lot more of us. We shouldn’t be looking at people like Tess and saying that’s okay. This interview has put me in a more positive mind frame moving forward where I have been too scared to even start trying. Thank you

  • As someone who is over weight and also has mild cerebral palsy I have been advised to lose some weight. My doctor has stressed that I don’t go crazy and try to lose a lot but she does want me to lose around 15 pounds so my joints aren’t under so much stress since they are already aging at an accelerated rate. Alot to people I know get mad when I bring it up because they are into HAES. Its discouraging because I know I felt so much better at a lower weight and I need to if I want my joints to last longer due to my specific issues. I hope you continue to give great nutrition advice for weight loss!:)

  • I feel like as a South African we alway hear how fat most people are and sone of my family that lives there have told us its because people eat junk food all the time where here we only eat fast food about once a month we spend a lot of time cooking and that lets us control what we eat. This is general i definately know fat people but they arnt common most people are on weight or a little chubby i think things like blue apron and things like that are great to help people make healthier choices easier

  • Hi Layne, great content. I have a question that’s puzzling me at the moment and maybe you can help? How does fasting affect the metabolism and the body’s self defense system (referring to your book)? Is it the same as the metabolic consequence of dieting?

  • There is sense and honesty in your reflections.

    I can defenately find myself in some of this, like your last comments on health vs asthetic reasoning for waightloss. I have lost about 30 ponds since summer last year, and I have defenately felt that my reasoning on needing to do waightloss to be aigable for hip operation has been taken more serious than wanting to loose waight just to get back to a more relatable body. To the point where people has almost been scolding me, not to mention, for wanting to loose waight, based on them not thinking I even looked that big. Which should be besides the point, when my goal is within a healthy range and my method were healthy swap’s. And where does the line between astetic and health even go. Obviously the operation is a medical thing, which the waightloss and increased strength from training made no longer needed. But is it a purely asthetic thing that I hate the way my skin folds and makes creaveses for sweat, and touch on places it weren’t ment to? Is it a purely asthetic thing, when I’d prefer to be able to wear skirts and short shorts in summer without having to fear making so much rubbing between my thick thighs, that it creates a sore, red and raw spot on those same thighs? Cause those arn’t excactly health related eather? ��

    And why should it matter if I choose to loose 10 pounds to improve health or to improve how I look, when the side effect, if done right, is increased flowers in eather case? ��

  • We’ve pretty much slayed the smoking beast. If only we had the same rate of obesity as we had in 1970, and everyone took a daily fast 20-minute walk, half the hospital beds would be empty, and Big Pharma would be Little Pharma. And Layne didn’t even mention the knee, hip and joint replacements and other issues caused by obesity.

    We would also have to cut the bullshit of calling 130/90 high blood pressure a risk, even when everything else is perfect, and worrying about high LDL, when everything else is perfect.

    Too bad the Fat Acceptance movement has exploded.

  • Ketodumb, carnivoredumb, low carbdumb, high carbdumb, ANY strict diet typedumb. Eat balanced and don’t eat too much. Why is this Soo hard for people to understand?

  • I’ve only seen this message as an excuse to reinforce the fat acceptance movement. “Accept my fat as normal and beautiful.” “But it’s unhealthy.” “No, you can be healthy at any size.” They completely refuse to see the data that associates chronic illness with excess fat. However, I do believe that you don’t have to be shredded to be healthy. There is a threshold of body fat.

  • “What should they be encouraged to do?”
    “Just live!”
    WHY DO YOU THINK THEY’RE TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU THAT OBESITY IS HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH? ALL THOSE MEDICAL ISSUES THEY LISTED CAN CAUSE YOU TO STOP LIVING.

  • I love so much about a lot that u say and share. But this is by far u at your greatest appeal level. Thanks bro as always. Love it.

  • Notice the like to dislike ratioshows the people who accept science on health and can accept they need to lose weight if they’re overweight vs those who disliked this videotype B, now wanting to accept being obese is unhealthy and is greatly offended by that word. No one should be offended. If you’re morbidly obese that’s what your body is. Someone could ne 135 pounds at 5’2″ and be morbidly obese because their BMI is over 30%. I’m sorry to have to say, this is the truth, the people in that scene are truly uneducated and wish being obese was a healthy thing. ITS NOT!

  • I think that most of these comments are right. Weight loss is almost a side effect of getting healthy. The issue is that a lot of people go to the gym to lose weight and the ultimate goal is to get skinny, not to get healthy. When that’s your goal, it’s unsustainable. And it’s not a good way to look at your body. You’re assigning value to yourself based on your weight and that makes it damn near impossible to keep that weight off without unhealthy habits sneaking in. Body positivity is about honoring your body, getting healthy, and losing weight because you’re getting healthy.

  • Abbey, you can’t be everything to everyone. Your voice and experience are valuable on YouTube because you do care and you are willing to speak out about the dangers of following advice blindly. I find your videos to be informative and eye opening. You promote balance and sanity without agenda and I really appreciate that even when you are critical, you are kind. I find your videos to be little oasis’ of health and healing. I appreciate what you have achieved here and I hope you continue to produce videos that are authentic to who you are. We trust you Abbey. Thank you!

  • This video should have been about 10 seconds long and gone as such:

    “Can you be healthy at any size? Oh course f’ing not. Next question.”

    Fin.

  • I really respect your point of view. Please may I ask what to do about children in our lives that are overweight, and how to support them to a healthier diet in a healthy way?

  • “you’d better lose weight or you’ll get cancer”
    Joe Rogan with a lip full of dip coughing from the acid reflux caused from swallowing dip juice all day

    Thanks for the advice!

  • It’s nice to hear somebody talking about this that isn’t screaming or talking about nuts on your chin. How refreshing to see a respectful, open dialogue between two adults.

  • I think that there is a side to this movement that is similar to the fat-phobic side of the weight loss culture. Like, there’s a skinny-phobic side of this argument and she isn’t on that side. People who shame other people for losing weight are on the skinny-phobic side of the argument.

  • Hey Layne, you claimed there was a study that said 90 to 100% of the benefits of weight loss are due to the reduction in weight regardless of nutriton or exercise. Do you have a link to that study?

  • I know this video is satire, but it’s inspiring. I used to be overweight and weigh 275 lbs, but now I’m severely obese at 350 lbs and can’t even wash my own ass. Thank you, Ethan. Papa bless.

  • There is an assumption here on your side that bigger people aren’t eating healthy, aren’t exercising, don’t take care of themselves. You ARE judging someone based on how they look, and assuming you know their health/ health risk. Also, you don’t need before/after pictures to talk about the benefits, joys of exercise, and it’s impact on health. All your before/after pictures show is that what you really care about how you look, not your health. The pictures tell me nothing about your health.

  • When I lost weight, it was from my eating disorder. BUT that in NO WAY means that people losing weight is inherently bad. Most of the time losing weight will make you healthier and happier. I just did it the wrong way (I was never morbidly obese tho).

  • I do this weird diet where I just don’t eat for like… a week or 2. Sometimes I do it on accident, and it doesn’t hurt me… it’s weird

  • as a bullied teen with a lot of fupa, you joking about your weight has really made me feel better about mine.
    i’m so glad to finally see that being a bit fat isn’t a bad thing

  • I’ve been watching your videos a lot, and this is the one that made me subscribe! I just love how clear, transparent, and neutral/reasonable you are here. Looking forward to your future videos!

    Also, I know you mentioned you do a lot of plant based eating. What’s your favorite vegan meal/recipe?

  • I’m skinnier than him and have the same legs… I mean I weigh like 160 and have a skinny body but fuckin tree stumps for legs. Thank you Ethan!!!

  • I have an autoimmune disease. I don’t have the luxury of health or mobility. I am very aware that I’m obese and desperately need to address that as it will cause further complications with my health and also aware that my mobility issues and medication make it harder for me to lose weight (and were in some respects the cause of my weight gain). And yet I STILL don’t sit here and say it’s fine to be fat and that I can’t help it. I frankly find the “health at any size” mantra offensive. Morbid obesity WILL shorten your life and decrease the quality of your life. As someone who has a shortened life span and decreased quality of life regardless of my size, it just feels like such a cop out to say “it’s not about health”. I DO believe that people who are obese need help, support, respect and understanding because I don’t think you actually get to that state if everything is hunky dory with your life, but I don’t believe you can be morbidly obese and claim to be healthy.

  • I have an illness, that apart from many other things, prevents me from gaining weight. Watching these videos helps me, as despite not being able to develop the perfect neck FUPA and that perfect dad-bod, I can see how beautiful, calming and peaceful, the life of a plus size is. I love you Ethan, gain weight to replace the weight I can’t gain. <3

  • This is one of the best conversations I’ve seen on youtube. both people allow each other to finish their thoughts. no interruptions.
    LISTENED to one another.

  • Eating brown rice and chicken shows that she didnt understand nutrition. It doesnt prove that being in a healthy body is unhealthy. its just means that her body didnt get the nutrients it needed but it also was not givien to much or to little of energi to burn it just wasnt given the right vitamins and other macro nutrients like healthy fats that are essential in well being.

  • This woman is very reasonable and respectful, so I do not mean to single her out here… I just find it so incredibly cringey when people say things like “she’s a bombass woman who says, ‘I’m gonna weigh 400 pounds and still wear lingerie.'”

  • As awesome as it is to see such an amicable conversation, the lack of disagreement here seems to have kind of made for an unproductive video. What I guess I’m trying to say is that she essentially is not a representative of the “health at every size” movement. She clearly doesn’t adhere to that idea ��‍♀️

  • I just think that the motto “healthy at every size” is wrong and stupid. There’s a range where you can actually be healthy but that’s not just ANY SIZE. Are the starving anorexic people healthy? Of course not and everybody agrees… Don’t you think at the other extreme there is a similar problem? Don’t confuse politically correct with factually true

  • Fully agree! ANY 600-pound person is NOT HEALTHY no matter what they say. There is no health at these kinds of morbidly obese, or even obese, weights.

  • I’d say men are harsh but women shame more
    Those standards whether they are created by men or women are pushed by women
    Men tell you what they find attractive or acceptable
    Women structure how to be acceptable

  • I like her sane definition of “healthy at every size”. Before I learned about Fat Acceptance, I just assumed that to mean a jockey can be healthy at 103lb and a powerlifter can be healthy 250lb. There is a lot of variance, but HEALTHY must be the consistent notion in that phrase.

  • I remember just a few months ago I looked up to you. I thought you were so fit and healthy but now that I’ve lost weight. You just look normal, my perspective of things changed. I was fat and now I’m skinny, but back then you looked just so how do I say this in a non homo way handsome, good-looking. You looked the way I wanted to look, handsome and good-looking. Don’t get me wrong you can be attractive at any weight I’m just i was not happy with the way I looked with a shirt on and off. Thank you for being such an inspiration for me, a year ago I didn’t know what testosterone was or what HIIT means. Now I’m confident in my own skin, I don’t care what anyone thinks anymore because they will never know the stuff I went through to be the way they see me now and tomorrow.

  • We need answers to why are so many of us overweight!! Is it DNA or FastFood cuz when your a child and your fat how is it your fault?? The child dont cook or go shopping or drive to McDonald’s!!!!! I didnt know anything was wrong with me til one day i heard miss piggy oink oink i was 9.

  • This is such a crock of shit about the consequences of being overweight, considering my doctor of about 160 lbs had a heart attack a year ago, hell Comedian George Carlin had a heart attack, an how skinny was he. Overweight people can live healthy lives, is it ideal to be over weight, no. Should it be glamorized with jackass ” Fat Acceptance ” no. You’re welcome I just saved you 6 minutes of your life from having to watch this shit.

  • This is so awesome and it makes me feel so much better as someone who was stuck between wanting to lose weight but not wanting to get sucked into diet culture. The struggle is real, and I look forward to any future videos you put out around this topic! ❤️❤️❤️

  • I mean she really hasn’t been obese and she’s never looked “unhealthy”. I just think she’s more wanting to be empowered and belonging to something more than anything..which is ok. But I think this girl is smart enough to realize that women like tess holiday aren’t healthy!

  • I loved your conversation guys! I also want to say that Health at Every Size means that you are the healthiest you can possibly be AT WHATEVER SIZE YOU ARE IN THE MOMENT. So… if you are obese, you eat healthily, you move as much as you are able to, you do the most amount of healthy things you can. That is what health at every size means. You focus on health, not on weight.

  • You cannot consistently maintain 400, 500, 600 pounds without consuming massive, massive amounts of calories every day. And if you’re working out too, you are consuming EXTRA massive amounts of calories, and that is not healthy. It’s just like someone starving themselves.

  • Ive been following you for awhile now and I have to admit I feel icky every time dieting and weight loss come up and you seem so against it. I’m so glad you make this video. I can’t see how you as a health care professional say that diet doesn’t work. I have a family member who has kidney disease and in order to stay alive she has to diet for the rest of her life. She is now in her thirties and still going strong. My immediate family also have diabetes. So you can see how dieting is a big part of my Iife if I wanna beat the odds. I lost about 20 kg over 2 years ago and keep it off just fine. I know it’s not seem to be a lot but it does mean my BMI is considered normal now. I mainly stop snacking on sugar and be more active. I hope you continue to reflect on the issue and maybe be a bit more open minded when it comes to dieting.

  • I can’t speak for all fat people, but I happen to be fat and am NOT lazy in the slightest nor do I sit and graze all day. The stigma against fat people is absolutely insane. I admit, I’ve met some other people who happen to be fat and lazy, but to assume every fat person is like that is pretty messed up. I chase around a 6 year old all day, do strenuous yard work around my house, I work out, as I am trying to lose weight. On top of cleaning house and running errands, and also had a full time job, before I was laid off due to this pandemic shit. I’m proud of my weight loss journey, but I don’t think it’s right to just assume every fat person sits and eats all day, and is lazy. I’ve lost 30 lbs so far, but I must say when I read and watch how people see so someone like me, without knowing how I’m trying to change my life to be healthier, it’s very disheartening.

  • Dieting doesn’t work but lifestyle changes do! Diets are 14 days on eggs only, or water fasts or keto and 95% of people will fail. But if you just eat less and excersise more, if you find healthy food you like and excersise you like, you will succeed. I’ve lost 45 pounds, it took me over two years, because I didn’t do anything drastic, more veggies, less processed food, more walking, then running and then weightlifting. I’ve kept the weight off for 2 years now. I just had to want to. It wasn’t easy, but saying it’s impossible is not helping. It IS possible, for most of the people it is possible. And any rational dietetian should help you to find better food, not tell you to just do nothing..

  • I think that “health at every size” has a lot of different meanings. For example I have a friend who lives off of Dr Pepper only eats fast food and never drinks water and is mentally struggling a lot but she is seen at a healthy weight. I have a balanced diet, considered obese at my size, go to therapy to stay mindful, and have been doing sports and HIIT trainings my whole life and have a condition that makes weight loss really difficult but yet I’m seen as not healthy strictly because of size. Health isn’t always surface level and I think that’s the whole point!

  • Just throwing this out there morbidly obese is an out of date term, we use obese class 1, 2 and 3 now. It’s more specific and each class has different health risks

  • It’s not them. I don’t blame them I blamed the ppl who keeps say ” you don’t need to change your beautiful ” or “omg nothing wrong” only honest true person who cares will tell them the need lose weight & how bad it is ( almost all fat ppl who lose weight was because the ppl who care & told them)