Fat Shaming – Where Will it Finish

 

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Fat Shaming and Disease. So we know that fat shaming is bad, or at least you should after reading this article. It doesn’t work and it actually counteracts the end result that the actual fat shamer is doing it for most likely to help someone lose weight. In other words, fat shaming is officially over. “We’re definitely hoping physicians and people work on their own biases,” says Wharton. The guidelines are intended to end the stigma around obesity and to ensure patients get the care they need.

Obesity. And now OAC is determined to put an end to fat-shaming once and for all. The fact that obesity continues to be a very serious health condition comes as no surprise. It affects more than 93 million people nationwide and is responsible for a host of health problems and conditions including type 2 diabetes, heart disease, stroke, joint problems. Fat shaming doesn’t need to end it needs to make a comeback.

Some amount of shame is good. We shamed people out of smoking and into wearing seat belts. We shamed them out of littering. Although it has been around for decades on end, fat shaming causes more problems than it solves. With the events that transpired during one of the recent episodes of Bill Maher’s evening talk show, Real Time, people are again putting the spotlight on how fat shaming negatively affects.

Fat shaming involves criticizing and harassing overweight people about their weight or eating habits to make them feel ashamed of themselves. The belief is that this may motivate people to eat. It’s time we stop fat-shaming! It needs to end. Not only is it not supportive or compassionate, it also does no good.

Being told you are fat doesn’t motivate you to lose weight. Most fat people, like myself, are aware we are fat. Instead, it would.

There is only one serious study, from University College London, that suggests fat-shaming doesn’t work, and it’s hopelessly flawed. Firstly, it’s based on survey data — relying on fat people to be honest about their weight and diets. Pardon the pun, but fat chance!

This is a group that thinks anything ending in “salad” is. Fat shaming politicians won’t end capitalism. A recent scandal over a scientific article once again raises thorny issues of who produces expert knowledge and why. Fat shaming is the result of an individual bias against people who are deemed unhealthy, unattractive, stupid, lazy or lacking self-control.

It is a faulty interpretation — based solely on a person’s appearance — that fatness is bad or morally wrong. Fat shaming is bigotry. Fat shaming is bigotry.

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It took twenty years for “fat oppression,” which describes discrimination and marginalization of women based on their weight, to become “fat acceptance,” the notion that fat people should focus on enjoying life, and later “weight preoccupation,” where women suffer to try to live up to beauty ideals.

“Being Fat: Women, Weight, and Feminist Activism in Canada” by Jenny Ellison
from Being Fat: Women, Weight, and Feminist Activism in Canada
by Jenny Ellison
University of Toronto Press, 2020

In a culture where there is at least some self-consciousness about the impoliteness of expressing blatant revulsion about fat, most people are quite willing to support the stereotype of fatness signifying ill health.

“The Fat Studies Reader” by Esther Rothblum, Sondra Solovay, Marilyn Wann
from The Fat Studies Reader
by Esther Rothblum, Sondra Solovay, Marilyn Wann
NYU Press, 2009

By contrast, the size acceptance movement, for example, the National Association for the Advancement of Fat Acceptance, promotes an “oppositional discourse” to counter the stigmatization of obesity (Sobal 1999).

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from 21st Century Sociology: A Reference Handbook
by Clifton D. Bryant, Dennis L. Peck, et. al.
SAGE Publications, 2007

Deborah said that there are now a number of lists posted on fat acceptance Internet sites of FA “jerks” who emotionally or physically abuse fat women.

“Fat Shame: Stigma and the Fat Body in American Culture” by Amy Erdman Farrell
from Fat Shame: Stigma and the Fat Body in American Culture
by Amy Erdman Farrell
NYU Press, 2011

In addition, anti-obesity activists and advocates seek to downplay a shaming discourse of personal responsibility, arguing instead that fat people are structured to be that way as a result of our “obesogenic” environment, which encourages poor eating and limited physical activity.

“Turbulent Times, Transformational Possibilities?: Gender and Politics Today and Tomorrow” by Fiona MacDonald, Alexandra Dobrowolsky
from Turbulent Times, Transformational Possibilities?: Gender and Politics Today and Tomorrow
by Fiona MacDonald, Alexandra Dobrowolsky
University of Toronto Press, 2020

Since the early 1970s, members of several U.S. size-acceptance organizations, most prominently the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance (NAAFA) and the Fat Underground, have been working to change the way society perceives of fatness, to cast off its stigma, and to combat discrimination.

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SAGE Publications, 2006

I mean, I think that people need to understand that, you know, all of the stigma against fat people, all of the barriers are because there’s this Madison Avenue, there’s a $33 billion a year diet industry in this country that sells us on the idea that fat people don’t deserve a place in this world.”

“The Oprah Phenomenon” by Jennifer Harris, Elwood Watson
from The Oprah Phenomenon
by Jennifer Harris, Elwood Watson
University Press of Kentucky, 2007

This runs counter to folk wisdom, which suggests that fat acceptance leads to lazy, complacent, irresponsible, and fat-inducing behaviors; and that fat shaming is the key to motivating others (or even ourselves) to lose weight and be healthy.

“On the Politics of Ugliness” by Sara Rodrigues, Ela Przybylo
from On the Politics of Ugliness
by Sara Rodrigues, Ela Przybylo
Springer International Publishing, 2018

Rather, for the size-acceptance movement, fatness is a political issue, and it is social, not individual, change that needs to happen to end discrimination against fat people (Wann 1998; Poulton 1997; Millman 1981).

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from Biomedicalization: Technoscience, Health, and Illness in the U.S.
by Adele E. Clarke, Laura Mamo, et. al.
Duke University Press, 2010

They desire to rid the world of fat people, perhaps hoping that if they do not have to look at excess, they will not feel its judgment in their own hearts.

“Evangelical Theologies of Liberation and Justice” by Mae Elise Cannon, Andrea Smith
from Evangelical Theologies of Liberation and Justice
by Mae Elise Cannon, Andrea Smith
InterVarsity Press, 2019

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  • If you’re fat, you ARE ugly. I get that it can be difficult and sometimes even feel impossible to let go of bad habits, but fat shaming is exactly what we need more of. If you joined the army, you wouldn’t be asked whether you wanted to do 300 pushups or not, you’d be screamed and made fun of until you had completed your task. So, where am I going with this? — Coaching. Fat people needs proper coaching. Without a coach, there’s no team. I ain’t gonna lie to you, it will be hard, and your brain will tell you multiple times to just give up and fall asleep at a fastfood restaurant, but why the fuck should you be listening to such nonsense, when you know yourself that you CAN achieve the body that you want?
    Fat shaming is not a problem, it’s a solution. If you can tell yourself that you’re a ugly mofo, then you have the will power to do something about it. Nah, the real problem here? Self-acceptance. Don’t listen to people whom tells you that you’re good enough as you are, because you’re not. You can always do better. You can always BE better. So, use that to motivate yourself, and help to inspire others.

  • Lisa’s body is naturally slim and she’s definitely healthy, when I was new to kpop I also thought she’s thin but after seeing photos from childhood to this date anyone can tell she has a healthy slim body. Respect Lisa ❤️

  • I just watched this movie thanks to this video and I thought it was so, so cute!! I agree that the sound design definitely needs improvement (like the inappropriately placed pop songs) but I thought the movie as a whole was charming in it’s sincerity.:^)
    (and yeah, Red and Merlin both do look like KPop stars lmfao)

  • The thing I don’t get is that girls always turn to dieting/starving when instead they could do some exercise to lose weight and be more toned

  • I think all the negativity will disappear from kpop if people just stop taking it so seriously. Back in 2012-13 kpop fans werent so aggressive. They just enjoyed the performances… nowadays the rabid fans are ruining everything including the lives of those idols…

  • I agree that the bodyshaming needs to stop, however, to sit here and say that she has a high metabolism and that she eats alot but works out a lot is honestly so cringy. I forget what show it was but a professional literally said she was severely underweight and it was unhealthy. If you take a look back at her pictures when she was still in Thailand, she had more fat on her bones. She wasn’t “chubby”, she looked healthier. One comment literally refers back to how she was still really skinny during her trainee days. Trainees are literally forced to lose weight as well. Momo literally said she ate only ice cubes just to lose weight and she was terrified that she wasn’t going to wake up. It’s known that there are weight checkups and if you aren’t at a specific weight you are embarrassed. It really is sad to see that people are pretending to be so woke about her being so tiny when in all reality being as underweight as she is puts her at a higher risk of death. Her BMI is literally 16. BMI measures fat and muscle mass. If she had a lot of muscle, it would be higher. Also, Lisa is bony and there are so many professional dancers that maintain a healthy BMI. Stop pretending to be so fucking woke when in all reality your comments are as damaging as those who attack her for being so skinny.

  • The vid would be fine until they mentioned my bias Moonbyul and says girl crush in a sarcastic way as if she isn’t a girl crush because she was thin, are they trying to make me an anti of blackpink by bringing other idols down???

  • Can also people understand that being skinny it doesn’t mean unhealthy? I know a lot of people skinnier than lisa that eats for 3 persons, is just how their body are

  • Absolutely love this woman!! My sister has PCOS. It’s no joke! Weight is about hormone regulation and digestion. Not as simple as calories in and calories out. So before you judge, educate yourself!!

  • Umm. Ok, so I definitely don’t support Lisa being body shamed in any way (I myself have been shamed for being skinny) but comparing her to other idols who you think are malnourished and “sick”? That is most definitely not the way to go about telling people to not shame Lisa. Here’s why:
    1. Showing idols who are skinnier than Lisa and saying they’re unhealthy/too skinny will only prompt people to go hate and shame those idols.
    2. It is not your place to say whether or not someone is healthy if you are not their doctor.
    3. (This mostly goes for haters) If an idol is unhealthily skinny, (or you think they are) body shaming and spreading possibly false rumors about that idol does. Not. Help. In any way. They will not gain weight because someone called them an ugly skeleton, comments like that will only make them feel worse about themselves. Please. Do. Not. Body. Shame. Anyone.
    4. Bringing up Chinese actresses/idols was kinda uncalled for considering the fact that this video was about a kpop idol, and lumping all of the beautiful Chinese actresses and idols into this “other can of worms” is again going to make some hate-filled people shame Chinese idols.
    5. (This is for everyone) Anorexia is not a body type, it’s a mental disorder. Stop saying that people “look anorexic” when any body could look anorexic. You do not have to be bone-thin to be anorexic.

  • Working out isn’t crazy! I do it for myself, not to be “appealing” and it does feel good! It’s also a great stress reducer & a way to appreciate your body!

  • I kinda see why other people think Lisa is too “skinny”, it’s because she has long legs and arms. If you have shorter, thin ones, it’s not that obvious (sometimes).

  • Everytime I heard the name “Regina” I kept on thinking of ABC’s Once upon a time. I mean, Regina does mean Queen, and both are different versions of the Evil Queen. Also, this seems like a good movie, but the marketing ruined it. THIS IS WHY YOU DON’T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT’S COVER!

  • People: OMG this idol is so fat. This pig needs to loose weight!

    Idol: takes the hate by heart and looses a lot of weight

    People: surprised pikachu face

  • People will always judge you no matter what. Do what makes you happy, but at the same time don’t force your pride down others as that kinda reverses the whole “shaming” (Mr. Reality from South Park mentions this).

    For example I collect “NSFW” anime figures and play ecchi video games. Am I judged negatively? Of course! Do I feel shame? Only if I let it disturb me, otherwise does shame really exist? I’m still the same person at the end of the day who just has a societal “weird” hobby. Just because I do something others might not be comfortable with doesn’t make me a bad person. But of course, I have to keep it to myself (and my friends) and not try to go displaying it everywhere as it would then do the reverse shaming, just like this comment post!

    I think there’s a difference between no shame and not having a human conscious. As long as it’s not something consciously bad or illegal (there are still limits) like stealing or hurting somebody, then you shouldn’t let others tell you how to live your life! If it makes you happy, go for it!

  • if you’re too skinny they would tell you to eat more food, but when you get fat they’d tell you to eat less, that’s just how it is.

  • Does anyone have a way for an american to watch this movie without risking viruses from risky sites?
    Never mind. Legal release appears to be pending.

  • This video is exactly what I needed to see. I’ve always struggle with feeling confident and putting myself out there as an artist, but waiting until I’m confident to move forward is a dead end. What an inspirational video. Revisiting this at least once a month!

  • Part of the problem with the marketing seems to be that the message was shortened for the hurried reader. Saying ‘not mainstream pretty’ does not fit the short and memorable side of most marketing.

  • Love how the knee jerk reaction some people have to the concept of not fat shaming, is to fetishize being overweight.
    Much like this poster, ya completely missed the point.

    Like, what if some one was saying ‘Don’t be racist.’ and you responded with “I WANNA FUCK MINORITIES SO HARD.”
    lmfao, okay, but I don’t see how that’s relevant to what I just said.

    I’m curious when we draw the line of not saying anything to someone if we are worried for their health.
    Like is it never? Like if my father or mother were eating themselves into the grave should I just watch them die needlessly young?
    If the answer is no, then when do we say something?
    Is it the first medical emergency?
    Is it the first disease?
    Is it when they can no longer walk?

    This shit is so fucking interesting to me. I make loads of life choices that are detramental to my well being and longevity, and sometimes I wish I had people in my life tell me, “Hey stop what you’re doing, you fucking loon.”
    I also think that I make choices like that because I don’t have, you know, anyone in my life tho:).
    Vicious cycle.

    ALSO I don’t think it’s wrong for fat people to turn you on, you are allowed to have a preference. I hope the opening statement here doesn’t make it sound like I want to kink shame those individuals.

  • They judge idols for being chubby,and eventually they lose weights but still judge them for being too skinny.I truly understand how depressed and stressed they must have been

  • what the hell??? if idol is too thick they hate them if idol too skinny they also hate them…what the hell??? let them be let them breathe haters are suffocating them what the fuck…urgh…

  • No one deserves hate, not just Lisa but the other idol in the video too. You said don’t criticize others and keep it to your self?? ‘She is definitely starving for diet’ ‘she looks boney and sick’ ‘they are like worms’ hmmm?���� I just feel cringe watching the whole video and thinking ‘what is the point of this person again sis? I’m so confused’

  • Umm, you clearly didn’t think this through. Literally shaming idols for being too skinny yet you continue to say, “stop body shaming.” You don’t seem to understand that these idols are being forced to become skinny until they’re considered, “pretty” or “idol-like.” This is why they’re are insanely thin because they have no choice, you act like they want to be extremely underweight. Lisa works hard for her body and same goes for those other idols you just shamed.

    Lisa is not necessarily at a healthy weight, but she is indeed healthy on the inside. She workouts and eats normally but that does not mean she’s at a healthy weight. So yes, you shouldn’t shame her for having a fast metabolism.

    Also, don’t call mamamoo’s fandom hypocrites. Moonbyul worked hard to lose the weight until the company accepted her weight loss.

  • the other day I stood in front of the mirror naked and let my thighs undulate. I told a boy that it looked like a majestic flamboyant cuttlefish.

  • Just bc other idols are clearly underweight does not mean that Lisa isn’t underweight too just bc she doesn’t look like a skeleton. She has a bmi of 16 and that’s very underweight. I’m not okay with body shaming and I have gone through that shit too. But you shouldn’t call that normal, bc it’s not. Rose is as thin as Lisa and it’s not normal too. Jisoo was underweight too but now she looks healthy. I just want to say that every Blackpink member is very thin and how they’re treated from their company is not okay. I don’t want that anyone thinks that this is healthy and normal. It’s not. With this kind of videos you make people struggle with their weight. And of course the people talk more about Lisa’s weight bc BP is so popular. Everyone knows them. I haven’t heard of a few other girls you have just named.

    At the end I just wanna say that I don’t hate anyone for their weight and looks. Skinny shaming and fat shaming are both horrible and people have to stop that. But you shouldn’t say that underweight or overweight is healthy. It’s just a fact. Saying that that isn’t healthy is not skinny shaming her. It’s just me worrying about her. Ik that I will get hate for this but I couldn’t just watch others thinking that it is normal and healthy to be underweight.
    And yes, there are illnesses that can cause underweight or overweight. But I don’t think that Lisa has one of them bc she’s never tired or very ill or weak.

    Stay healthy and please just have a good and happy live.

  • i’m watching this video in august 2020 and there is still problems. people have been coming for the girls of blackpink for being too skinny AGAIN..

  • She is beautiful for standing up there and re-living the mean things people have said and done to her. We live in a thin obsessed culture. It is true and will never go away. The fact that she is confident in who she is despite what society says is pure beauty and bravery. She is an inspiration to me. Her message should be told to every middle school and high school girl…

  • bro I don’t get why all because someone’s skinny doesn’t mean they are anorexic tf is wrong with them!? like b!tch they don’t even know what anorexia is smh

  • Even if you’re not extremely skinny, working out and eating right is really healthy and once it becomes a habit it makes you feel truly proud of the health and discipline you’ve accomplished. These people are just too lazy to have that discipline, which is a shame, because it creates an entirely new definition to body positivity

  • So you’re basically skinny shaming other less famous idols to make Lisa look better? Great great what an amazing social justice warrior

  • Solo Stans need to understand that they are not Rosé’s dieticians. Diagnosing someone else with an eating disorder, especially if you are not a medical professional, is body shaming and completely unacceptable.

  • PUSSY IS LIKE A CHEESE SANDWICH A PUSSY
    WILL OZZ BUT NEVER FORRIZELE NOT TO STURDY FOR ME I OWN MY HOME, MY OWN OWN BUSINESS AND WELL SO MUCH MORE KEEP GRASPING AT CHUMPS WEMON ARE NOT MADE FOR REALK CHOICES
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  • Isn’t it plain rude to just asssume that the other idols aren’t getting body shamed too and also while saving Lisa, the other idols are body shamed here.I think its a bit biased.Its not that i hold grudges against lisa or sth, but it would be better to search up every titbits before posting anything about the other idols too.

  • Something I’ve never understood, why is people so up in other people’s business like why does it bother them what others weight is? it’s not THEIR weight so why is it a problem? Let them have the weight they want, everyone is beautiful in their own way.

  • I hate ‘fans’ like this who hate their idols
    Like you wouldnt say that irl so don’t say it online tf. I honestly am not a big kpop fan but I feel bad for idols and when I look at them I see sadness in their eyes. They are constantly judged, body shamed and sent death threats. LIKE FGS THESE IDOLS ARE ALREADY A GOOD WEIGHT STOP SHAMING THEM THEY ARE HUMANS TOO. For example jihyo, was a little overweight, she wasn’t even that overweight! Even so, let her be if she wants to lose weight then let her do that by her own decision and live her for her not her body. Another example in pop, Lizzo, she is proud of her body and she is accepted so why can’t we just acept our kpop idols. I’d like to see the people who write those horrible comments go up onstage and be judged for their weight see how they feel. (Sorry for the rant I just needed to say it)

  • Sometimes I feel lile the media has gone too far with the whole “accept your body” concept.. I don’t think you are ugly if you are overweight, I just think that it is giving people suffering with obesity a reason to not start eating right and exercising because “everyone is beautiful”. Mhm… It is so beautiful to die at 70 because you are 350lb… Of course, don’t think I am including everyone overweight. If it is due to the fact you have a slow metabolism then just keep watch of what you eat and try raising metabolism. It won’t be easy, but stay strong.

  • Can everyone stop skinny shaming idols, it is just as bad as fat shaming. And saying that you are “concerned” for them is such a bad way to justify it. PEOPLE CAN BE NATURALLY SKINNY AND ITS CALLED METABOLISM, BONE STRUCTURE AND EXCERSISE. Netizens are never happy it’s either “you’re too fat” or “you’re too skinny”, just let them be you are ruining lives.

  • It’s good not to allow shame to bring you down. Society should not suppress anyone from enjoying themselves in positive ways that all others in society are typically allowed to. At the same time, there is a threshold between purposefully shameful criticism and necessary/constructive criticism. There’s also a threshold between when it’s appropriate to bring up something and when it’s overly rude. But, unless you believe there are absolutely no issues to be discussed when it comes to obesity, then you have to be able to process criticism when it is necessary/constructive and told to you at the right time and place. I understand why some people might be hyper-vigilant about certain criticisms due to some past trauma (or they were never taught to properly handle any type of criticism). But if it can’t be brought up then any action addressing it will likely not occur.

    I know someone who spends almost uncontrollably, has to borrow from well to do parents on a very regular basis, and has never created a budget. Every time (literally every time from what I’ve observed over five years) budgeting and limiting/controlling spending is discussed, anger flares up and no constructive conversation occurs no matter how gently the topic is brought up. This person’s parents are too scared to bring it up unless they are so strapped for money they can’t help but say they can’t pay for whatever (which is often met with extreme hostility from their child) and they continue to enable the behavior by constantly supplying money. The result of not being able to face any criticism and seeing all of it as attempts to weigh that person down with shame means that person will likely never be able to end the objectively poor spending habits.

  • I cried when jimin said he was fat and wasn’t CUTEEEEEE, and his “diet” wasn’t even a diet he was starving him self poor baby ��������

  • Mamamoo fans aren’t the worst. Like they really aren’t. Every kpop idol dieted not just Mamamoo (yes even Lisa) but MooMoos like to call out that they really have healthy bodies. Tbh they do. MooMoos (or at least the normal ones, because every fandom has its own bad apples) never said Lisa is too skinny. Please respect my idol if you want me to respect yours. (no hate, I’m a slave for Lisa).

  • As a Mamamoo fan / Moo Moo I don’t see Lisa being hated on where did you get that from????
    I know your a blink and trying to protect Lisa but blaming a whole other fandom is a mess this is how you start fanwars To me your kinda of a blonk if you ask me. Just like me and many others left the blink fandom because it’s embarrassing saying your a blink when most of the fandom is toxic I mean no hate but seriously I’m not trying to be toxic but I’m saying what I believe but I do agree on the Chinese idols/actors they look like they starve themselves.
    Thank you for taking your time reading this I mean no hate towards you and blinks I know not the whole fandom is toxic
    🙂

  • If being fat, you get hated. If being too thin, you get hated. SO WHAT THE POINT THERE HAH??!!Kpop idols also a human and they deserve better than being hated!!